Government publishing office

78
ers with whom NPR spoke said that they got either generous dis-
counts or free tuitions.’’ So that is one comment I want to make. 
Another comment is about the philanthropy part of NYU Shang-
hai. There was an article I found in Chinese that described this 
newly found foundation called the Education Development Founda-
tion at the NYU Shanghai. NYU President Sexton referred to the 
three distinguished people on this foundation, and I was amazed to 
find that two of them were high-ranking Chinese party officials, re-
tired. 
And these are officials, in the Chinese culture parlance, they are 
called the tui ju er xian de guan bu, which means, ‘‘Communist 
cadres working on the second front,’’ meaning that they work in the 
nongovernment sector to exert government control. 
So I just find the word ‘‘philanthropy’’ is misleading in here be-
cause of exactly where does the money come from? It could still 
come from the government, even it is labeled as fundraising philan-
thropy. I don’t know. I am just saying because this foundation is 
led by former high-ranking officials. One of them was a former 
member of the CCP Central Committee. That is very, very high 
ranking. I mean, you have what, 1,000, a few hundred CCP Central 
Committee members across the country? 
And also just on a more playful note, the Chinese elite privileged 
kids, guess what? They don’t want to go to NYU Shanghai. They 
all come here, to Harvard, to Princeton, to UPenn, and they come 
here. So that is my comment. 
Mr. S
MITH
. If I could, Mr. Lehman, maybe ask you another ques-
tion, whether or not discussions about—and, Dr. Martin, this would 
be to you as well and any others who would like—can there be a 
robust discussion about the Dalai Lama? 
I led the congressional effort to nominate Liu Xiaobo, Chen 
Guangcheng to get the Nobel Peace Prize, went there when they 
had the big, empty chair, which is one of the most heartbreaking 
scenes ever. And of course Liu Xiaobo’s wife is not doing very well, 
and she is under a kind of house arrest. 
Here is a Nobel Peace Prize winner. We are going to hold an-
other hearing on Liu Xiaobo very soon to try to keep the focus on 
a Nobel Peace Prize winner who is languishing in prison. And my 
question would be, can you discuss his work? Can you do it? Dr. 
Martin, as well, and Mr. Daly, do you want to speak this, or any-
one else? 
And, again, in an unfettered way, because the crackdown there 
was so complete they even threatened the Nobel Peace Prize Com-
mittee and the host country for having the audacity to raise his 
issue, as they did so well in nominating him or selecting him. 
Let me also ask with regards to religious freedom, can Bible 
studies exist? Can, again, Falun Gong practitioners engage in their 
spiritual exercise on campus? 
Internet freedom. We know how the Internet is absolutely 
abridged by the great China firewall that is in place. So, again, 
your students—I am not sure there is much anyone can do about 
that except if we keep the pressure on worldwide—but they are 
getting a very filtered set of facts and information via the Internet. 
But let me ask you as well, in 1983, 1984, I offered the first 
amendment that passed the U.S. House of Representatives on the 
VerDate 0ct 09 2002 
14:25 Sep 29, 2015
Jkt 000000
PO 00000
Frm 00082
Fmt 6633
Sfmt 6633
F:\WORK\_AGH\062515\95248
SHIRL

---

79
greatest human rights violation of women’s rights ever, in my opin-
ion, and that is the egregious one-child-per-couple policy that 
makes brothers and sisters illegal. It requires forced abortion by 
policy. There has been talk since 1985 that it is relaxing, and it 
never seems to bear fruit. It is usually proffered for international 
consumption and to garner a headline somewhere that somehow 
they are relaxing the policy. 
And, frankly, with the implosion that is imminent in China be-
cause of the missing girls, we had a hearing just a few weeks ago, 
and the number of missing daughters is incalculable. It might be 
as many as 100 million or more, leading to sex trafficking and a 
disproportionality of males to females that is causing huge prob-
lems for the country. Hopefully, the government realizes their self-
interest in eliminating such a ban on children, making children il-
legal. 
I asked in this room the head of the Foreign Affairs Committee, 
when she was visiting with a delegation from China, how they deal 
with the fact that 600 women per day commit suicide, nowhere else 
in the world is female suicide more than male, except China, and 
the fact that there is such a terrible, terrible toll and a lot of it. 
We don’t know how much. 
But that comes for the Centers for Disease Control—theirs, not 
ours. They challenged my number. We brought down the facts and 
figures and she walked out. That was the end of that conversation. 
That is a loss of women’s lives that is, again, unparalleled any-
where else in the world, 600 per day. 
My question would be, with regards to the one-child-per-couple 
policy, and Dr. Martin as well, in one of my trips to China I asked 
a number of businesses whether or not they were implementing the 
one-child-per-couple policy, whether or not workers can snitch—and 
that is the word they used—on a women who is pregnant without 
the birth permitted coupon and authorization given by the govern-
ment. And most of the businesses told me yes. These were Amer-
ican businesses. Some didn’t know what I was talking about, but 
those that did said: Sadly, it is part of Chinese law and we follow 
it. 
And I am wondering what happens to an unwed mother, one of 
your students—and again they are not even allowed one child, all 
unwed mothers are compelled to abort or face ruinous fines—what 
is the university or the college’s response to that? Are you in any 
way complicit in enforcing the one-child-per-couple policy? Do you 
have a health clinic? 
My hope is that you are in no way involved, directly or indirectly. 
But what is the case with regards to that? 
Mr. L
EHMAN
. So we are in no way involved. We have a clinic on 
campus. It is a health and wellness area. It is very popular with 
our students. The mission of the health and wellness clinic is not 
to enforce the one-child policy. We are not charged with enforcing 
or implementing the one-child policy. 
Mr. S
MITH
. But if a woman is or a young student is pregnant, 
how does that get—I mean, we have had—we have worked—I have 
worked personally, as well as my staff, on many cases of women 
who had a second-order baby, including talking to the Ambassador, 
VerDate 0ct 09 2002 
14:25 Sep 29, 2015
Jkt 000000
PO 00000
Frm 00083
Fmt 6633
Sfmt 6633
F:\WORK\_AGH\062515\95248
SHIRL

---