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The U.S.-China relationship for the last 3 years has operated on 
the premise that the U.S. should engage with China, help her grow 
economically, and the economic development will lead to the Chi-
nese Communist Party’s embracing human rights and democratic 
values. Instead, today we have a monstrous combination of state 
capitalism, the kleptocratic marriage of power and money, and the 
broader and harsher suppression of the Chinese people and their 
legitimate demand for political and civil rights. Internationally, we 
are witnessing an increasingly aggressive China, a rising threat to 
the peace and security of the world and a challenge to the existing 
world order. 
One can argue about all the defects of the current order, but I 
assure you with absolute certainty that you do not want a global 
regime set up and dominated by the Chinese Communist Party. 
The CCP has mastered the game of taking advantage of a free soci-
ety like ours. It is sad to see how easily our universities can fall 
prey to the party’s scheme. It is my wish that American univer-
sities are able to see the full picture, where they fit into it, and 
what end they are serving when entering joint ventures with the 
Chinese Government. 
Thank you very much. 
[The prepared statement of Ms. Cao follows:]
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Mr. S
MITH
. Thank you so very much for your testimony and your 
research. 
Let me first begin the questioning first with Mr. Lehman, if I 
could. Is it your testimony that the Chinese Government officials 
have no say whatsoever in hiring, firing, promotion of NYU per-
sonnel, including your professors and teachers? 
And when it comes to admissions, how is that determined? For 
example, can a son or a daughter of a dissident be accepted to 
NYU? What is the cost? What is the tuition, fees, and all when you 
add it all up together for an academic year for a student? How 
much of that is paid for by the Chinese Government? I mean, get-
ting to who actually owns NYU Shanghai, is it a partnership where 
51 percent is you or them? We just don’t know on this side of the 
aisle. 
But, again, how much are those student fees and tuition is sub-
sidized by the government? And if they don’t have a say in who is 
admitted to NYU, I mean, do they just give you the money and 
then you decide who it is that comes in? 
I do want to thank you for the invitation offered broadly to Mem-
bers of Congress. I accept. I would very much like if you could pro-
vide me with an invitation to speak on human rights. I would love 
to give a lecture on religious freedom and other human rights 
issues. 
This is my 53rd hearing on human rights in China. I have 
chaired probably close to 500, if not more, human rights hearings 
covering from human trafficking, to forced labor, to issues of every 
kind. The students and professors might find it of some interest. 
So I would hope, if you could extend that to me when we are not 
in session, I and my staff will be there. 
Let me also ask you too, and I know I am throwing a number 
of questions right out first, but how do you vet NYU teachers there 
to ensure that—the Chinese Government, as we all know, is ex-
traordinarily effective in placing people in positions, they do it in 
business all the time, that keep a very sharp eye on others to en-
sure conformity to what the party wants. How do you ensure that 
the people you are hiring are not agents or people reporting back 
and surveilling both other teachers and others, personnel, as well 
as the students? 
I yield. 
Mr. L
EHMAN
. So thank you, Chairman Smith, and I will try to 
answer all of the questions. If I miss one of them, please feel free 
to remind me and I will do my best. 
I will start at the end and the beginning, which was the question 
about faculty appointments and how they work. So faculty appoint-
ments at NYU Shanghai are the same as they are at NYU New 
York. That is to say, they are led by a provost on our campus, who 
is Joanna Waley-Cohen, who is seated behind me today. She was 
the chairman of the History Department at NYU for many years. 
She was on the NYU faculty for decades before coming to NYU 
Shanghai. 
The process is, we announce that we are holding a search. It is 
a global search, and the search is for the best people in the field. 
The searches are done by discipline. Because we are starting out, 
we don’t have a large established faculty in Shanghai, and so we 
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