(John)
Hideo
Could you give me a brief description about peer relation and friendships in your class and school?
John
In the class, everyone is enjoying school life.
All pupils have good relationships.
Hideo
Uh-huh….does any bullying occur?
John
No, we do not have.
Everyone has chat with others very friendly.
Hideo
You mean, all pupils have good relationships, is that right?
John
Yes.
Hideo
Aha….I see….
Why did you choose to be a peer supporter?
John
At first, I was not interested in peer support.
But the teacher said to me, “peer support is very interesting!”.
They encouraged me to be. Then I decided to be.
Hideo
So…you were encouraged by the teacher, is that right?
John
Yes.
Hideo
Hmmm….I see. I understand.
How do you feel when you are doing peer support activities?
John
hummm……….everyone was very quiet and I was very nervous….
Hideo
I see….are you still nervous when you are doing the activities?
John
Comparatively I am less nervous now.….
Hideo
You mean, in the beginning, you were so nervous, is that right?
John
My palms were sweating ….
Hideo
Aha..……you were sweating….Hummm….
That sounds difficult.
You still have something to do as a peer supporter.
Humm…..
John
Yes, I have.
Hideo
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Well, how does peer support give a positive influence on peers and school ethos?
John
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Hideo
You can share anything…..
Are there any positive influences?
John
Yes…….
When we had assembly in school auditorium, pupils behaved well and listened to what others were saying.
Hideo
You mean pupils’ behaviours have been getting better, haven’t they.
How about before?
John
In days gone by, in the first half of assembly, pupils were able to listen to what others were saying quietly.
When approaching the end, pupils started whispering……they said “I want to the assembly to end soon”……
Hideo
Whew…….so, pupils’ behaviours have been improved…
Do you think their behaviours were improved because of the peer support activities?
John
Well.…it might be true….especially each pupil’s heart has been changed…I think…..
Hideo
Why did each pupils’ heart change?
John
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Someone started mentioning some advices to the pupils. Then, gradually the pupils changed their hearts and behaviours…
Hideo
Someone’s advice?…..is that the teacher? Pupil?
John
Peer supporters…..also teachers….
Hideo
Are there any differences in pupils’ behaviours, between pupils’ advices and teachers’ advices?
John
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Hideo
Are there any differences in pupils’ behaviours between teachers’ encouragements and pupils’ encouragements?
John
I think there were the differences.
Hideo
What’s the difference?
John
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Well, there are age differences between the pupils and the teachers.
Then, there are some gaps between teachers’ views are pupils’ views.
Pupils are the same generation, and they share similar views.
Hideo
Ahhh…I see.
Well….you mean, the pupils have similar views, is that right?
John
That’s right.
Hideo
If pupils were encouraged by others who had similar views, pupils tended to take their advice well, is that right?
John
That’s right.
It is easy for pupils to do that.
Hideo
Could you tell me why other pupils did not take action actively?
John
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Hideo
Do you think other pupils do not want to contribute to the greeting activity and fund-raising activities?
John
No, I do not think so.
Hideo
Do you know the reason why pupils do not actively take action?
John
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Hideo
Well…do you know the reason why the pupils are not active for peer-led activities?
John
The pupils think they do not have anything to do with the activities…
Well….a fund-raising activity is something for somebody else…..pupils think the activity will not benefit themselves.
Hideo
So...you mean, the pupils do not care about it, is that right?
John
The pupils tend to think that way..
Hideo
Do you think the pupils do not want to join a fund-raising activity and greeting activities?
John
Well… for example, if the pupil joined the activities, others might ignore the pupil’s conducts
and encouragements. The pupil really worries about being ignored.
Hideo
Aha…..…are pupils afraid of failures?
John
Some pupils are afraid of failure….
Hideo
Pupils do not want to feel bad, is that right?
John
Yes, it is right.
Hideo
What is the reason why pupils do not want to join the activities?
John
For example, when the pupil said “good morning” to others, others might ignore the pupil.
The pupils are afraid of getting hurt.
Hideo
I understand how the pupils are thinking…..
Well….do you feel any difference between peer supporters and other pupils?
John
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Hearts are different….
Hideo
Hearts are different?
How are their hearts different?
John
Well, some pupils really want to do something good for someone else.
But some pupils really do not care about other people at all.
They think, even if they do something good for other people, it will not benefit them.
Thus, hearts are different.
Hideo
Pupils who do not behave positively, have this kind of tendency, don’t they?
Could you tell the differences between peer supporters and pupils who show supportive attitudes?
John
Errrr…....peer supporters are persons who take a lead for others.
Supportive pupils are persons who want to contribute to something good, but they do not want to actively take a lead. I think this is the difference.
Hideo
I see….
Supportive pupils want to do something for others, but they do not want to take a lead….is that right?
John
Yes, that’s right.
They are weak in taking a lead for others.
Hideo
Why are supportive pupils weak in taking a lead?
John
Because, supportive pupils are too shy to do that.
Hideo
You mean, their shyness is the biggest issue, is that right?
John
Yes, that’ right.
Hideo
You mean…the pupils want to do something good, but they are too shy to take a lead by themselves. Therefore the pupils try to follow others’ behaviours....is that right?
John
Yes, I think so.
Hideo
If you were not a peer supporter, do you think you still could actively take actions for others?
John
Yes, I think I can take actions for others.
Hideo
I see…well……
It sounds like there are not much differences between peer supporters and supportive pupils…is that right?
John
Yes, you are right.
Hideo
The issue is “shyness”….is that right?
What else?
John
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I think that’s all.
Hideo
I understand.…
Why do you think we need a peer support system in school?
John
Well…because pupils are easily inspired by other pupils’ encouragements, rather than the teacher’s encouragements.
Hideo
Aha……that is the reason why you prefer that pupils take a lead for others rather than adults take a lead.
John
Yes.
Hideo
You mean, it is easier for the pupils to do the activities, is that right?
John
I think the pupils are able to easily take actions, and also create friendships.
Hideo
Do you have any other reasons?
…the reasons why we need a peer support in school?
John
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Hideo
Do you need time to think about it?
Or shall we go to the next question?
John
Yes, the next question please.
Hideo
Well….are there ways in which the peer support system could be improved?
If so, what are they?
John
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Hideo
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Well…what is the ideal situation?
John
Ummmm…….ideal situation is….pupils greet cheerfully, and keep the school tidy…..I want everyone to show supportive attitudes and work together in these kinds of things….
Hideo
Hummm….you mean everyone positively behave in school....is that right?
John
Yes, you are right.
Hideo
So…. you want to involve everyone into the activities, don’t you?
John
…..There are many opportunities for each schools’ representatives to attend the meeting together with other school’s representatives. But I want other pupils who are not representatives, to have the opportunities to work together with other schools’ pupils.
I think it is good idea.
Hideo
So, you want other pupils, who are not a peer supporter, have opportunities to communicate with others.
Why do you think it is good for them to communicate with others?
John;
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Hideo
What happen after communication?
John
Pupils are able to learn something new and good things from other schools.
Hideo
I see…. pupils are able to learn something from other schools….is that right?
John
For example, if 8 pupils from my school, communicated with other schools’ pupils, this means 8 people could gain something good knowledge.
Similarly, the more pupils communicate, the better knowledge we gained.
Hideo
Okay.
Ummmm…..what benefits have you experienced?
Could you explain to me?
John
Umm…..I believe, if I was not a peer supporter, I could not have experienced to speak in front of people...
Hideo
You mean you got a precious experience, is that right?
John
Yes, it is right.
Hideo
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What are the positive aspects of being a peer supporter?
John
I could overcome my shyness.
Now I am not nervous to speak in front of people.
Hideo
You mean, your communication skills were improved, is that right?
John
Yes.
Hideo
It sounds good.
If you did not join the peer support, do you think you are still nervous to speak in front of people?
John
I think… probably I am still nervous to speak.
I believe I sweat, especially my palm of the hands.
Hideo
Ah…that’s tough.
Umm….what do you enjoy most about being a peer supporter?
John
I enjoyed the planning meeting for the morning assembly.
We tried to decide each person’s role and comments.
I really enjoyed it.
Hideo
You mean, the planning was the most joyful experiences, is that right?
John
Yes, I enjoyed it.
Hideo
Aha…....you enjoyed the planning more than doing activities....
John
Yes, at this moment, I feel so.
Hideo
What do you like least about being a peer supporter?
John
Sometimes we have the peer support activities in the morning.
So, it is hard to get up early for it.
Hideo
I see…..
Umm…is that a problem? Is there anything else?
John
That’s all.
Hideo
What do you think about the difficulty itself?
John
I think it is important to face the difficulty, because this experience will help me in the future.
Hideo
Ummm….you mean, you need this kinds of experiences, it that correct?
John
I believe these kinds of difficulties will help me to do something in the future.
Hideo
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Have you taken the difficulty to your supervisor?
John
I and other peer supporters asked the teacher for help and we received advice.
Hideo
How helpful is the supervision?
John
Yes, it was very helpful.
Hideo
Did you have any help from pupils?
John
No, not really….
Hideo
I see….
Ummm…..did you have any negative feelings about the difficulty?
John
In the beginning, I did not like the difficulty.
Even though I still did not like the difficulty, I had to do what I needed to do.
So, eventually I did not care about the difficulty.
Hideo
..…which means, you were inspired by yourself, is that right?
John
Yes, I think so.
Hideo
I see…..
Do you feel any emotional changes after coping with the difficulties?
John
I hate things which are half-baked, and I devoted myself to the activities.
So I had a sense of achievement.
Hideo
Aha…..what was the most important hey issue or idea for coping with the difficulties?
John
I think it is important not to think about the difficulties too much.
I tried to think about not negative aspects of the things, but positive aspects of it. Then, eventually I can positively think about the difficulties.
Hideo
I see..…..
Are there any tips to involve other pupils into the activities?
John
It is good idea to encourage the pupils to do the activities.
In addition, we can make the poster and put up it somewhere very noticeable places.
I believe the pupils will see it and they may be motivated for it.
Hideo
Your idea is to share a lot of information with the pupils, is that correct?
John
Yes, it is correct.
I want the pupils to hear, see and understand information.
Hideo
Do you think it works well?
John
Yes, I think many pupils will positively take actions…
Hideo
Is there anything else?
John
No, that’s all.
Hideo
How do you deal with pupils, who have negative views on peer-led activities?
John
Rather than encouraging them in assembly, it is better to encourage them on an individual basis.
I think they will positively listen to my words.
Hideo
…which means, you encourage them on an individual basis, is that right?
John
That’s right. Like one to one…..which help they to listen to my word seriously.
Hideo
I see. I make the situation, which make the pupils listen to seriously..
I understand.
Ummmm……
what do you do to cheer yourself up when you are feeling blue because of the activities?
John
I try to talk about something fun with my friends, which creates good atmospheres to discuss the issues. Then, I will be fine.
Hideo
Well…….how helpful is supervision?
Could you give me an example?
John
When I was really struggled to create the manuscript for the activities, the teacher gave me an advice. It was very helpful for me.
Hideo
I see……
Ummm…..what do you think about peer support system in your school?
John
I think current activities are not enough.
I want to increase the activities and to involve many pupils into the activities.
Hideo
I see….you mean, you want to more actively take actions, is that right?
John
Yes, you are right.
Hideo
Currently, all secondary schools in Neyagawa city, have worked together to organise the school summits.
What do you think about these activities?
John
I think these activities help the pupils to mutually improve their activities and themselves.
Hideo
You mean, you want to have the school summits, don’t you?
John
Yes, we need the summits.
Hideo
Well… I ask you again.
What is the difference between pupils who positively behave and pupils who negatively behave?
John
Ummm……some pupils could change themselves by taking a chance, but some others
could not recognise a chance as the chance…..
This is the difference….I think…
Hideo
You mean, a little difference could create a big difference between them, is that right?
John
I think so.
A little thing could strongly influence their developments.
Hideo
Lastly, any other things you would like to tell me about peer support?
John
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Hideo
Any comment?
John
I believe that current activities give strong influence on various people.
I want to more actively take actions for many people. I think these activities give influences on not only the schools, but also other schools outside Osaka.
I really want to share Neyagawa city’s pupils’ activities with others, and this will also give influences throughout Japan.
Hideo
I see…you had experiences to learn something from other schools, thus, now you want to share your experiences and activities with others.
Is that right?
John
Yes, it is right.
Hideo;
Thank you very much for answering questions for a long time.
(Dan)
Hideo
Could you give me a brief description about relations and friendships in your class and school?
Dan
Pupils have very good relationships.
Hideo
Could you explain how pupils have good relationships?
Dan
Often many pupils have played together and also all pupils actively work together for school events.
Hideo
You mean everyone is very supportive of each other, is the right?
Dan
Yes, I think so.
Hideo
Does any bullying occur?
Dan
There is no bullying.
Hideo
Are you sure?
Dan
I think there is no bullying
Hideo
Are you sure?
Dan
There are some small skirmishes among some pupils, but there is no bullying like in Sakura-no-miya high school.
Hideo
Hahaha.
Well, why did you choose to be a peer supporter?
Dan
Because I wanted to work for my class mates and create a good unity.
Hideo
You mean you wanted to do something good for the class mates, is that right?
Dan
Since I was a first year pupil, I was a peer supporter. I just wanted to be a peer supporter again.
Hideo
I understand.
Well, how do you feel when you are doing peer support?
Dan
I am enjoying it.
Hideo
Is that tough?
Is that difficult?
Dan
When I need to speak in front of people, I feet tough, but generally I am enjoying it.
Hideo
You mean you feel more joy rather than tough, is that right?
Dan
Yes, I think so.
Hideo
Ahhh….that sounds good.
Well, how does peer support give good influence to other pupils and the whole school?
Dan
During the greeting campaign, peer supporters greeted pupils, and the pupils used to reply to them too.
Hideo
All pupils started greeting, is that right?
Dan
Some pupils started greeting.
Hideo
Ohhh. How about before starting the greeting campaign?
Dan
Before the campaign, several pupils greeted, but I think now more pupils greet each other.
Hideo
Well, you mean the activity gave positive influences to pupils, is that right?
I see.
Could you explain the reason why other pupils do not want to be a peer supporter?
Dan
Because pupils think peer support is bothersome.
Hideo
Do you think everyone wants to be a peer supporter?
Dan
Pupils do not want to be a peer supporter.
Hideo
I believe many pupils actively join the fund-raising activities, don’t they?
Pupils do something good.
Could you explain the reason why other pupils do not want to be a peer supporter?
Dan
Pupils can’t be bothered to gather and discuss peer support.
Hideo
Maybe some pupils want to be a peer supporter, but they do not have much time to work as a peer supporter….is that right?
Dan
I think so. Some pupils do not have much time to be a peer supporter.
Hideo
Do you think many pupils are willing to contribute to something good?
Dan
Some pupils want to do something good, but other pupils do not want to at all.
Hideo
I see. I understand.
Are there any differences between pupils who actively join the activities and pupils who are not active in joining the activities?
Dan
I think their motivations are different.
Hideo
How different are their motivations?
Dan
Some pupils are just not good at leading others, thus they do not want to be a peer supporter.
Hideo
Generally, pupils do not like leading others, but they want to support the volunteer activities, is that right?
Dan
Probably yes.
Hideo
Well, what are the differences between pupils who actively join the activities and pupils who are not active in joining the activities?
Dan
The reason is……just…..some pupils do not support the activities at all. They just lack motivation. They really do not want to join the school events.
Hideo
What are the differences between peer supporters and pupils who actively join the activities?
Dan
Some pupils do not have confidence to lead others, but they can still support the activities.
Hideo
I see. Are pupils humble to act as a peer supporter?
Dan
That is not humble. Just pupils want to support the activities.
Hideo
Ahhh….I understand.
Well, why do you need peer support systems?
Dan
As a part of peer support, peer supporters organised the chime-be-seated activity.
When pupils heard the sound of the chime, they need to be seated shortly to prepare for a lecture. This activity started because many pupils used to be late for a class.
Also if there are no greeting campaigns, many pupils tend not to great each other at the school gate in the morning. That is the reason why, we need peer support activities.
Hideo
It is not necessary to have peer support systems. Because teachers can lead the activities. Is that okay?
Dan
It is easier for pupils to greet other pupils, rather than toward teachers.
Hideo
Is that so?
Dan
I believe so.
Hideo
You mean, when pupils greet other pupils, they easily reply to pupils, rather than when teachers greet other pupils.
Dan
Probably yes.
Hideo
Why is it like that?
Dan
In short……..some pupils have rebellious attitudes toward teachers, because they reached the rebellious age. There is no rebellious age between pupils. Thus, when pupils give some advice to each other, most times pupils listen to their friends’ advice. Then the whole school would be improved. I think.
Hideo
You mean pupils tend to listen to other pupils’ words more than teachers’ words, is that right?
Dan
Pupils’ words are more influential
Hideo
Why are pupils’ words more influential? Is that because pupils are friends?
Dan
Because many pupils are at a rebellious age and they tend to show rebellious attitudes towards teachers.
Hideo
I see…….well, pupils’ words are more influential more than teachers’ words, aren’t they?
Well, so you believe you want to have peer support systems because pupils can organise school life by themselves?
Dan.
Yes.
Hideo
Well, if there are no peer support systems, what do you think?
Dan
If there were no peer support systems, our school life would get worse.
Hideo
I see
Do you have any idea to improve your peer support systems?
Dan
If there are more opportunities to give presentations about our school’s good points and bad points at morning assembly. This would improve our school, I think.
Hideo
Do you think this will improve your school?
Do you think your school will be improved by sharing good points and bad points?
Dan
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Hideo
What are the good points?
Dan
Everyone has good relationships and can cooperate together.
Hideo
Who do you mean by everyone?
Dan
All pupils.
Hideo
You mean you want to involve all pupils?
Dan
Yes.
Hideo
I think peer supporters are working hard. Is that not enough?
Dan,
That is not good enough. All pupils definitely need to cooperate together.
Hideo
Why do you think so?
Dan
Because I think a whole school is one group.
Hideo
You mean even if peer supporters are working hard, that is not enough?
Do you feel so?
Dan
Sometimes I feel if pupils more actively cooperate together, it would be good.
Hideo
You would like to actively involve pupils into activities…..that is the reason why you feel it would be good if pupils more actively cooperate together.
Dan,
Yes.
Hideo
I see.
I just wonder, do you feel there is an invisible wall between peer supporters and other pupils?
Dan
I do not feel it.
Hideo
Do you feel any pressure for others?
Dan
Sometimes when I have opportunities to give a talk in front of others, I feel pressure.
But now I get used to it.
Hideo
Were you a shy person?
Dan
I was not a shy person because I was good at giving presentations when I was in a primary school. But now I am able to give better presentations more than before.
Hideo
Do you have any good experiences when you are doing peer support activities?
Dan
Because I have opportunities to see our school comprehensively, I can find some bad points and so on.
Hideo
You mean you can see your school comprehensively.
Dan
Yes.
Hideo
Perhaps, you might widen your view, is that right?
Dan
I think so.
Hideo
Do you have any other good experiences?
Dan
Because I am working as a peer supporter, everyone starts relying on me.
When some pupils were a bit noisy during class, I asked them not to talk. Then these pupils listened to my words and stopped talking.
Hideo
You mean you gain trust from other pupils, is that right?
Dan
Yes.
Hideo
Ahhh. Great!
I understand.
What is the enjoyable thing when you are doing peer support activities?
Dan
I enjoy giving presentations in school events.
Hideo
Ohhhh. You are enjoying activities, is that right?
Dan
Yes.
Hideo
You are really enjoying peer support activities, aren’t you?
You have not had much difficulties, is that right?
Dan
Sometimes the school summits are carried out on Sunday. But the summits are conducted for the sake of pupils, thus this is not a difficulty at all.
Hideo
What are the things you do not like about peer support?
Dan
Yes, I like peer support, thus I do not have things I do not like.
Hideo
Great.
Have you had any difficulties when you are doing peer support?
Dan
When I asked some pupils to behave well several times, they did not listen to me. Sometimes I feel that’s bothersome to persuade them to do something.
Hideo
Ahhhh.
Did you overcome that?
Dan
Now most time pupils in my class have listened to my word when I asked them.
Hideo
Why have they stated listening to your words?
Dan
Probably, I have asked them to behave well many times.
Hideo
Hahahaha.
Dan,
Also I think pupils put their trust in me.
Hideo
What do you think about difficulties?
Dan
I am enjoying difficulties. Including them, I am enjoying peer support activities.
Hideo
You mean you view difficulties as enjoyable things, is that right?
Dan
Because of difficulties, I can feel I need to make more efforts.
Hideo
Ahhh…you think positively, don’t you?
I see. Well, when you face the problems, have you asked your supervisor for help?
Dan
I sometimes ask supervisors for help
Hideo
Do you find supervisor’s support is helpful for you?
Dan
Yes, when I asked supervisors for help, they supported me well.
Hideo
Have you had any help from other pupils when you faced difficulties?
Dan
When I asked some pupils to behave well, other pupils also asked them to do well.
Hideo
You mean other pupils also support various activities, is that right?
Dan
Yes, they do.
Hideo
Do you have any negative views toward the difficulties and problems?
Dan
Sometimes I negatively feel them, but I can feel joy more than negativity.
Hideo
You mean you sometimes have negative feelings, but you feel joy more than negativity, is that right?
Dan
Yes, I think so.
Hideo
What is the most important thing for you to overcome your difficulties?
Dan
Because I have experience making my class a supportive atmosphere, then I have gained confidence. Thus I would like to try to overcome something I could not achieve before.
Hideo
This kind of your experience would support you?
After overcoming the difficulties, have you had any change of mind?
Dan
After completing my duties, I feel an immeasurable sense of accomplishment.
Psychologically I feel joy.
Hideo
Ahhh. I see. I understand.
Do you have any idea how to involve other pupils into the activities?
Dan
At the assemblies, peer supporters need to ask pupils to join the school events and activities. Then, one of these days, pupils may support us.
Hideo
Do you think so?
Dan,
Yes, I think so.
Hideo
Is that enough?
Dan
Probably fine.
Hideo
By encouraging pupils to join the activities at assemblies, do you think pupils who actively did not join the activities before, start joining the activities?
Dan
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Ummmm…….
Regarding these pupils who do not join the activities, I would like to ask their friends to encourage them to join the activities.
Hideo
Their friends?
Dan
If some girls do not want to join the activities, it is better if other girls nicely encourage these girls to join the activities rather than boys encouraging them.
Then these girls seem to listen to their words and this give influence to other pupils little by little.
Hideo
Ohhhh. Well, the power of friends is very influential, isn’t it?
When pupils are asked by their friends, they would easily join the activities, is that right?
Dan,
Yes, I think so.
Hideo
I understand.
I believe some pupils show negative attitudes toward peer support activities, so how do you make contact with them?
Dan,
Just, I play with them and talk to them as usual.
Hideo
You contact with them in normal manner, don’t you?
When you feel down because of peer support, how do you cheer yourself up?
Dan
I play with my friends and talk to them. After that, I can forget negative feeling.
Hideo
Ohhh. I see.
As mentioned before,
Well, when you had advice from supervisors, was is useful?
Dan
When I asked supervisors to talk to some pupils to behave well, supervisors did it well.
Hideo
Do you have any other?
Dan
That is all.
Hideo
What do you think about current peer support activities in your school?
Dan
I think that it is good.
Hideo
Do you have any comments?
Dan
If our peer support were carried out more actively, our school would be more improved.
Hideo
Do you think you can carry out your peer support activities more energetically?
Dan
Yes, I can.
Hideo
How can you do it? Any examples?
Dan
By increasing the number of events and activities, there would be more opportunities for everyone to work and support together. Then pupils can have a strong sense of unity.
Hideo
You mean pupils need to be united, is that right?
Dan
Yes, I think so.
Hideo
Currently, not only your school, but also other schools cooperate to have school summits together.
So how do you think about the school summits?
Dan
Actually, I have not joined the summits yet. But I think pupils who are doing the summits, are great.
Hideo
Do you think you can learn many things from the summits?
Dan
Probably I can learn many things.
Hideo
I see.
Indeed, I understand.
Once again, do you feel any difference between pupils who actively join the activities and pupils who do not actively join?
Dan
It is up to their morale. Some pupils tend to join the activities every time, but other pupils who do not join actively, would not like to join at all.
Hideo
Well, you mean there are some differences between them, is that right?
I see. I see.
Finally, do you have anything to tell me?
Dan
I would like to increase the number of school events and activities. Because this give more opportunities for pupils to have good relationships among them and also improve our school.
Hideo
I see.
I understand.
Thank you very much for your help over a long time.
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